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Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: July 13th, 2012, 3:42 pm
by bluenote
I would love it if sabnzbd would report retention too :) Its the status logon I'm wondering about - for example, right now, the first entry is:

(Looks good) 211 25000000 5184689169 5209689169 alt.binaries.boneless

211 is obviously a status. what are the next 3 long numbers?

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: July 13th, 2012, 3:49 pm
by sander
bluenote wrote:I would love it if sabnzbd would report retention too :) Its the status logon I'm wondering about - for example, right now, the first entry is:

(Looks good) 211 25000000 5184689169 5209689169 alt.binaries.boneless

211 is obviously a status. what are the next 3 long numbers?
RFC977 tells the meaning of those parameters in a 211 response after a GROUP command:

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   211 n f l s group selected
           (n = estimated number of articles in group,
           f = first article number in the group,
           l = last article number in the group,
           s = name of the group.)
So ... not too useful numbers in my overview. You can ignore it.

Question: if SABnzbd would determine the retention and completeness of the servers you use, would you allow SABnzbd to anonymously share those numbers to a central database? If so, and more people would do that, combined it would give a complete overview of Retention, Completeness and DMCA-removals of all servers in the world. :)

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: July 13th, 2012, 3:52 pm
by bluenote
I would absolutely allow sab to anonymously share server statistics like that. Thanks for the explanation. I was hoping I could do something like compare article #'s either between the same server, (total #) or between servers (last vs last?) and get an idea but maybe that was just a pipe dream.
Anyways thanks for the education.

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: July 13th, 2012, 4:39 pm
by shypike
Not likely to happen.
Besides, retention times are not absolute.
Servers start deleting older posts when their storage becomes full, it's not truly time-driven.
Also their deletion order is not strictly based on time order.

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: July 23rd, 2012, 11:53 am
by TallTom
mck wrote:http://www.tweak.nl/nieuws.html&item=175
free.tweaknews.nl:119 Threads: 4

also XennaNews test server that has been around for a while not on the list
91.223.220.236:119
Entered 91.223.220.236 into Sabnzbd and it's telling me there is an authentication failure issue. Is there a username/password associated with it?

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: July 26th, 2012, 1:22 pm
by Rectofier
XSUsenet is now 10 days retention on free accounts, WOW..Thanks...for nothing.

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: August 14th, 2012, 3:20 am
by Hurda
Anybody else who can't reach free.tweaknews.nl? Appelboor lists it as working, but I can't reach it by client, by ping or traceroute (timeout-error).
Is it limited to dutch users? ???

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: August 14th, 2012, 4:26 am
by sander
Hurda wrote:Anybody else who can't reach free.tweaknews.nl? Appelboor lists it as working, but I can't reach it by client, by ping or traceroute (timeout-error).
Is it limited to dutch users? ???
No problem from my France based VPS:

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[email protected]:~$ telnet  free.tweaknews.nl nntp
Trying 82.197.196.22...
Connected to free.tweaknews.nl.
Escape character is '^]'.
201 free.tweaknews.nl NNRP Service Ready - [email protected] (no posting).
quit
205 Transferred 72 bytes in 0 articles, 0 groups.  Disconnecting.
Connection closed by foreign host.
[email protected]:~$ 

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: August 14th, 2012, 9:04 am
by Hurda
OK, thank you.

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: August 14th, 2012, 1:24 pm
by mck
i guess they allow only direct peering connections and not transit as that costs more to them. Using a proxy might work, but sab doesnt support that directly, with proxifier it’s fine tho.

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: September 9th, 2012, 5:00 am
by overburner
I'm from Italy and with free.tweaknews.nl and news.readfreenews.net I obtain ever connection timed out. Why this?

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: September 9th, 2012, 5:24 am
by sander
overburner wrote:I'm from Italy and with free.tweaknews.nl and news.readfreenews.net I obtain ever connection timed out. Why this?
Can you connect to any other newsserver? If not, it might be your firewall or your ISP blocking access.

You can try:
news.giganews.com
news.xs4all.nl

Nota bene: The above 2 are NOT free newsservers. So you should get a "login needed", but NOT a time out.

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: September 9th, 2012, 5:49 am
by overburner
Thanks for your reply sander.
I'm using correctly free.xsusenet.com, the only usenet server that I can use for free (but only 10 day retention) and it works fine, if with sabnzbd I try to test server I obtain ever "connection successful!" Some days ago I could use also news.just4today.net but seems dead now :-\ So it works. But with free.tweaknews.nl and news.readfreenews.net I obtain ever connection timed out. I've tried with ports 80, 81, 23, 119 with SSL and without SSL, nothing to do.
They works for you?

Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: September 9th, 2012, 5:57 am
by sander
overburner wrote:Thanks for your reply sander.
I'm using correctly free.xsusenet.com, the only usenet server that I can use for free (but only 10 day retention) and it works fine, if with sabnzbd I try to test server I obtain ever "connection successful!" Some days ago I could use also news.just4today.net but seems dead now :-\ So it works. But with free.tweaknews.nl and news.readfreenews.net I obtain ever connection timed out. I've tried with ports 80, 81, 23, 119 with SSL and without SSL, nothing to do.
They works for you?
Yep, news.readfreenews.net gives "Connection Succesful!".

Furthermore: "ping news.readfreenews.net" works for me. Does it for you?

If not: use mtr / traceroute / tracert to find out where it stops

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[email protected]:~$ mtr -rc4 news.readfreenews.net 
HOST: R540                        Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- router.home                0.0%     4    2.4   3.2   2.4   4.2   0.8
  2.|-- blat.                      0.0%     4   19.5  20.8  19.4  23.0   1.7
  3.|-- hurricane-electric.nikhef  0.0%     4   24.0  24.1  21.2  26.7   2.3
  4.|-- 10gigabitethernet6-1.core  0.0%     4   37.4  37.1  32.3  39.9   3.3
  5.|-- 10gigabitethernet7-4.core  0.0%     4   99.5 104.6  97.5 113.7   7.5
  6.|-- 10gigabitethernet8-3.core  0.0%     4  126.9 118.9 115.1 126.9   5.4
  7.|-- 10gigabitethernet1-1.core  0.0%     4  131.5 128.4 123.5 133.3   4.7
  8.|-- ip-house.gigabitethernet3  0.0%     4  123.5 127.3 123.5 130.6   3.1
  9.|-- c4500-1.bdr.mpls.iphouse.  0.0%     4  125.2 126.7 125.2 130.7   2.7
 10.|-- yellow.octanews.net       25.0%     4  125.1 123.9 123.1 125.1   1.0
[email protected]:~$


Re: Free Newsservers

Posted: September 9th, 2012, 6:11 am
by overburner
ping news.readfreenews.net works for me also.... all packets are transmitted and received nothing loss, very strange.
Is this the right configuration in sabnzbd?

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Host                         news.readfreenews.net
Port                         119
Username                     "blank" (nothing inside)
Password                     "blank" (nothing inside)
Connections                  3
all other fields blank (nothing inside)

I'm not using proxy and I'm using Open DNS (if can be useful)