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Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 1:17 pm
by jcfp
sander wrote:Oneiric is 11.10, and the OP has 10.04 (=Lucid). Both EOL, but just to understand eachother. Correct?
Nope, only oneiric is EOL. Lucid -at least as a server- has 5 years of support as an LTS release, the desktop was 3 years. The 5 year support for lucid server also means the ppa build machines keep accepting new uploads for that release. For the latest LTS release (precise) it's 5 years for both server and desktop.

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 1:49 pm
by sander
jcfp wrote:
sander wrote:Oneiric is 11.10, and the OP has 10.04 (=Lucid). Both EOL, but just to understand eachother. Correct?
Nope, only oneiric is EOL. Lucid -at least as a server- has 5 years of support as an LTS release, the desktop was 3 years. The 5 year support for lucid server also means the ppa build machines keep accepting new uploads for that release. For the latest LTS release (precise) it's 5 years for both server and desktop.
Do you kwow what that means if you have a 10.04 Desktop: will it still update the stuff that's also in a server (so: the bare Linux stuff, the CLI programs, etc), or will it not update anything anymore?

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 2:37 pm
by Headcase_Fargone
Update Manager is saying I won't be receiving any more updates. I don't know if that makes a difference for running apt-get.

I've decided that I'm going to update to 12.10 but I'm terrified of doing so on account of the software RAID5 array I have on this box that took me forever to get working properly, and that was with empty disks at the time. I'm already seeing a lot of posts on the Ubuntu support forums about software arrays not mounting after an upgrade.

Edit: Wow, I just noticed that I am, in fact, on 11.10. 10.04 must have been on a previous iteration of this little media server I was playing around with before setting up the array. Regardless I appear to be out of support for this release.

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 2:45 pm
by sander
Headcase_Fargone wrote:Update Manager is saying I won't be receiving any more updates. I don't know if that makes a difference for running apt-get.

I've decided that I'm going to update to 12.10 but I'm terrified of doing so on account of the software RAID5 array I have on this box that took me forever to get working properly, and that was with empty disks at the time. I'm already seeing a lot of posts on the Ubuntu support forums about software arrays not mounting after an upgrade.
I understand that. Have you already tried a live-boot to see how it handles your RAID5?

BTW: I would advice to install 12.04.2 as it's LTS.

This is what I do on my Ubuntu systems:

20GB partition for Ubuntu #1
20GB partition for Ubuntu #2
4GB swap partition
Big partition (rest of harddisk) for /home

That way I can install a fresh Ubuntu while keeping the existing Ubuntu in place, so that I can always fall back.

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 2:47 pm
by Headcase_Fargone
That sounds like a fine idea. Ubuntu actually isn't installed on the array, for clarification. That array is just mounted under /media as a storage volume. Ubuntu is running off a 30GB SSD on a different bus.

Is there any risk to my data trying to mount that array under a fresh (live CD) installation?

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 2:52 pm
by sander
I think it mounts when you click on it in the file browser Nautilus. And even if so, just mounting should not be a problem, as long as you don't write to it.

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 18th, 2013, 3:13 pm
by jcfp
sander wrote:Do you kwow what that means if you have a 10.04 Desktop: will it still update the stuff that's also in a server (so: the bare Linux stuff, the CLI programs, etc), or will it not update anything anymore?
I suppose a 10.04/lucid desktop install would still receive security updates for some stuff as a side effect of those packages being supported in the server installs. But with all gui/x-based stuff and associated packages becoming script kiddie target practice, such a system is less than useless as a real life desktop.
Headcase_Fargone wrote:Update Manager is saying I won't be receiving any more updates. I don't know if that makes a difference for running apt-get.
Not really, initially it will just never find any updates anymore, and after a while the outdated standard repositories will simply disappear from most mirrors too (= errors instead of packages when trying to install anything at all).
Headcase_Fargone wrote:I've decided that I'm going to update to 12.10
12.04 has 5 years of support and a direct upgrade path from 11.10...

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 23rd, 2013, 2:22 pm
by Headcase_Fargone
So I've successfully upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 and my array seems to be intact, huzzah! Unfortunately I'm not any closer to updating Sab. I no longer receive errors when doing an apt-get install, but it does tell me that I'm already on the newest version, 0.7.12. I've successfully run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Still no dice.

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 23rd, 2013, 2:44 pm
by sander
Headcase_Fargone wrote:So I've successfully upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 and my array seems to be intact, huzzah! Unfortunately I'm not any closer to updating Sab. I no longer receive errors when doing an apt-get install, but it does tell me that I'm already on the newest version, 0.7.12. I've successfully run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Still no dice.
Have you activated the PPA?

Re: Updating to 0.7.13 on Ubuntu 10.04

Posted: June 26th, 2013, 2:57 pm
by Headcase_Fargone
sander wrote:Have you activated the PPA?

That did it. You guys are the best.