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Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 3:33 am
by bluenote
Hey guys

I'm with astraweb [block] right now, but I only just recently switched over to usenet for all my downloading needs.  They charge $25 / 180GB, or $11 (discounted) for a monthly unlimited (unlimited rate/bytes).  I've also seen blocknews mentioned ($21 / 200 GB) or their sister site usenetnow.net ($10.xx per month on a subscription basis).

I guess what I'm saying is, I'm not sure if Im going to be sticking with block, or going with a monthly account, but I'd like to pay the very least possible.
Can you guys share your experiences?

thanks

PS. this is great software.  Thank you SO MUCH.

EDIT: I also came across this affiliate link which seems like a pretty good deal in another post here so in the interest of getting the good info all in one place,
it is usenetserver.com for $96/year. I couldn't find that price from the main page, but https://accounts.usenetserver.com/agood ... fer=278756 works

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 10:33 am
by rascalli
I am with XSNEWS , and it is very good & reliable , I am even using their FREE IPV6 server .. and that one is great

All is unlimited , but pricing it is based on SPEED
And Some you can even share with a good friend ..... (1 download at a time)

Starting from 4.95 Euro a month  (Will be 3.70 Euro if you pay 1 year in advance)


http://www.xsnews.com/Producten/vergelijk.php

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 2:10 pm
by sander
@bluenote:

You could get unlimited download for free ... via IPv6. On a plain Windows Vista / 7 with Microsoft Security Essentials (not another virusscanner) you should have IPv6, which you can check via http://www.appelboor.com/check-ipv6-refresh.html

On Linux and Mac OSX activating IPv6 is easy. Let me know if you need that.

If you have IPv6, you can get a free Newsserver account via http://www.xsnews.com/ipv6/ipv6_aanvraag.php

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 2:38 pm
by bluenote
Thanks for the recommendations guys!

Sander, could you elaborate?  I checked out those two links, and I've enabled IPV6 on my NIC, but my extremely limited armchair understanding of IPV6 is that you need a tunnel, or hardware that supports V6 all the way down the line.  I don't think my router does and I'm guessing my residential ISP doesn't either ..
I'll search around some more but if you happen to have a 'for dummies' link, that'd be much appreciated. thx

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 3:34 pm
by sander
bluenote wrote: Thanks for the recommendations guys!

Sander, could you elaborate?  I checked out those two links, and I've enabled IPV6 on my NIC, but my extremely limited armchair understanding of IPV6 is that you need a tunnel, or hardware that supports V6 all the way down the line.  I don't think my router does and I'm guessing my residential ISP doesn't either ..
I'll search around some more but if you happen to have a 'for dummies' link, that'd be much appreciated. thx
What does http://www.appelboor.com/check-ipv6-refresh.html say to you?

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 4:43 pm
by bluenote
Hey sander

I seem to have got it (mostly) working.  teredo doesn't work unless you have windows firewall actually enabled.
(And without teredo working, sabnzbd hangs adding the xlnews server).

First, the result of the url you referenced:

Code: Select all


et's check your IPv6 connectivity (this can take up to a minute):

Your IPv4 address is xx.xx.xx.xx. 
You're running Windows Vista (or Windows Server 2008).


Check #1: OK, you have IPv6 network connectivity! Your IPv6 address is 2001:[removed]
You have IPv6 via Teredo / Miredo. Teredo is built-in in Windows Vista and Windows 7.

Check #2: Pity: you have no IPv6 name resolving. Alas, this is normal on Windows Vista and Windows 7 with so called Teredo 2001:0:-addresses.



Done checking your IPv6 connectivity. 
In sabnzbd I just tried to download something, and I get :

reader.ipv6.xsnews.nl:119: 0 (Unblock)   Cannot connect to server [ [502 frontend-E01-10: Access denied to your node - news@frontend-E01-10]]

I couldn't seem to find specifics on what the xsnews server supported, so I just have it set to 1 connection, no SSL.

thanks for any hints!

EDIT:  Apparently that access denied to your node means, my credentials weren't right, I must have mistyped the random generated p/w.
thanks for your help sander it seems to be working!  Can you tell me if they support SSL? (And what kind of retention?)

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 10:16 pm
by sander
Retention is 300+ days.

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 19th, 2010, 10:32 pm
by sander
PS: also add newszilla6.xs4all.nl (3 connections, no account needed, retention only 14 days) as a IPv6 reference server.

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 20th, 2010, 1:25 am
by kiljaden
sander wrote: Retention is 300+ days.
Actually is around 500+ days but sometimes you can get even up to 600 days

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 20th, 2010, 8:08 am
by mr.baksteen
is xsnews still working? i'm getting a message (10060, 'Operation timed out') for 3 day's now.

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 20th, 2010, 11:49 am
by sander
mr.baksteen wrote: is xsnews still working? i'm getting a message (10060, 'Operation timed out') for 3 day's now.
You can check yourself, as described above:
what does http://www.appelboor.com/ipv6.html tell you,
AND
does newszilla6.xs4all.nl work for you?

If YES and YES, then xsnews-ipv6 is down for you, which can be based on your IPv6 tunnel ...

Finally: check http://www.appelboor.com/newsserver.txt to see the status of xsnews-ipv6 for native IPv6 ...

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 20th, 2010, 2:23 pm
by mr.baksteen
its says xsnews is up... than it wil be go6? most ipv6 pages are working. are thy only blocking. port: 119?

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 20th, 2010, 2:34 pm
by sander
mr.baksteen wrote: its says xsnews is up... than it wil be go6? most ipv6 pages are working. are thy only blocking. port: 119?
Answer my second question, and you can answer your own question ...

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 21st, 2010, 3:08 am
by bluenote
Workin great, thanks sander

Re: Cheapest of the cheap services?

Posted: November 21st, 2010, 7:59 am
by mr.baksteen
it tels me

1.
Check #1: OK, you have IPv6 network connectivity! Your IPv6 address is [removed]
Check #2: Congratulations: you have IPv6 name resolving, too. This means you have full IPv6 connectivity and you can visit sites like ipv6.google.com

2. no.. same error as xsnews

so its not yes and yes..